Narcissistic Abuse Recovery: Fight vs Fawn Nervous System Responses
Written by Roland Bal
When you are a child and are growing up, you need sufficient validation from your parents or a prime caregiver to develop a healthy sense of self and build emotional resilience.
When sufficient love and validation—as in not too little and also not excessively—is provided in childhood, you are less likely to be constantly on the lookout for validation when you are an adult.
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Child Abuse and How Your Sense of Self Gets Compromised
When you have been subjected to psychological, physical, or sexual abuse as a child, that sense of belonging, feeling loved, feeling safe, and validated goes out of the window. Even more so when the abuse happened at home or within the family, which is very often the case.
Being abused and having your sense of belonging compromised will either make you guard your emotional space very tightly, through a fight response, or you might channel your actions into a fawn response.
When you are a child and are growing up, you need sufficient validation from your parents or a prime caregiver to develop a healthy sense of self and build emotional resilience.
The fawn response makes you overly invest your energy in others, in order to get a sense of validation either from them or through your actions.
Both the fight and fawn response are a set of compensatory reactions that attempt to make up for a lack of belonging, feeling loved, and validated.
Survival Patterns of Anger-Fight, or Anxious-Fawn
That hurt of rejection, lack of validation and not belonging, compounded by the abuse you endured, sets in motion a set of reactive survival patterns of either fight, flight, or please that will become habitual and to which you will default over time.
Our minds move in opposites. When on a core level you feel unloved or not validated, you will instinctively seek for its opposite, which is validation, to compensate for that lack of validation.
You might go about that in different ways. You might make yourself submissive or subservient to others, and through pleasing attempt to make up for that lack of belonging.
On the other hand, you might become hyper-ambitious, controlling, and perhaps have narcissistic traits, in order to prove to yourself and to others that you are worthy; this as an attempt to compensate for feeling unworthy, on a core and often unconscious level.
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Grief and Sadness: The Fawn and Fight Patterns
On that core level, the emotion related to the hurt of being unloved, lack of belonging, and lack validation is sadness. How you further react to that core level pain shapes your character.
So far, we have laid out the anxious-fawn response and the anger-fight response.
Let's go a bit deeper into what the possible consequences are:
The Fawn Response: People Pleasing as a Trauma Survival Strategy
The anxious-fawn response, as a coping reaction to a breach of your boundaries, acts out by being too invested in other's opinions about you. As a result, you burn yourself out by giving too much of yourself, and in doing so, you set yourself up for being hurt once again.
That giving too much comes with an emotional expectation, which is to want validation for your efforts; and when the expectation isn't met, you will feel rejected or even betrayed.
Also, you more easily fall prey to a charmer or a narcissist who plays on your need for validation for the sake of his or her own seeking of validation through control and manipulation.
It gets messy!
How the Anxious-Fawn Pattern Shows Up
You might find yourself:
- Over-explaining or over-apologizing constantly
- Taking on other people's emotional burdens as your own
- Saying yes when you want to say no
- Feeling responsible for how others feel
- Struggling to express anger or set boundaries
- Feeling exhausted from constantly giving
- Attracting people who take advantage of you
When love, attention, and bonding is taken away from you, either through natural circumstances or deceitful intent, you are left hurt and feeling betrayed.
This re-experiencing of the hurt of disconnection, lack of validation, and lack of belonging further compounds your core-wound, and will possibly keep cycling you through the extremes of reaction: from depression, isolation, lack of self-esteem, and fatigue, back into people-pleasing, being overly expectant, and taking on too much that isn't yours.
How the Fight Response Develops After Emotional Abuse and Trauma
The second type of coping reaction and character forming is the anger-fight response. You might act that out through having very tight boundaries and keeping others away from yourself, or you act that out through wanting to control and dominate the environment, circumstances, and people around you.
The latter turns out to be the more destructive response, and many of those in power and business, unfortunately, act out of that compensatory emotional pattern.
The anger-fight response is prime material for becoming a psychopath and/or narcissist when taken to further extremes. To understand how trauma creates these patterns, read root cause of narcissism.
The anger-fight response similarly rests on compensation. It differs in that you "choose" an anger-fight response in order to cope and survive with feeling overwhelmed, as opposed to choosing an anxious-fawn response.
The compensation is that you seek validation through either isolation or success, prestige, control, and domination to make up for lack of validation, not belonging, feeling unworthy or unloved.
How the Anger-Fight Pattern Shows Up
You might find yourself:
- Keeping people at a distance emotionally
- Having rigid, inflexible boundaries
- Needing to control your environment
- Quick to anger when things don't go your way
- Struggling with vulnerability or asking for help
- Isolating yourself to feel safe
- Overworking to prove your worth
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Why You Keep Attracting Narcissists: The Nervous System Pattern
If you have an anxious-fawn pattern, you're essentially advertising yourself as someone who will:
- Put the narcissist's needs first
- Accept blame and responsibility
- Keep trying to make things work
- Not set firm boundaries
- Provide endless validation
The narcissist can sense this. They're looking for someone who will compensate for their lack of internal validation through control and manipulation. This dynamic is explored in depth in narcissist and people pleaser.
It's a lock and key situation. Your need to please fits their need to control. Your need for validation fits their need to withhold it and use it as leverage.
Until you address the core wound—that deep sadness and lack of belonging from childhood—you will keep recreating this dynamic.
Somatic Healing from Narcissistic Abuse: Regulating Fight or Fawn Responses
Here's what needs to happen:
1. Process the Core Emotion
That sadness from childhood—the hurt of not being loved, not belonging, not being validated—has to be felt and processed.
Cognitive work alone won't do it. You need somatic processing to work through what's held in your body.
2. Learn to Access Anger Constructively
If you're stuck in anxious-fawn, you need to learn how to access anger in a healthy way. To start to use anger-energy as a way of setting healthy boundaries.
Without anger-energy, which is self-validation, you can't set boundaries. You'll keep getting walked over.
3. Build Self-Validation
Become aware of how you are looking outside yourself by default for validation. That very awareness arrests that movement and thereby you stop giving away your power to others.
You then carefully start the process of self-validation. You can ask yourself "Do I want or not want to be here, do this, or be with this person".
Your worth becomes less dependent on what others think of you.
4. Recognize the Pattern in Real Time
When you notice yourself:
- Over-explaining
- Taking on too much
- Feeling responsible for someone else's emotions
- Saying yes when you want to say no
That's the default pattern. That's your cue to do something different. That awareness gives you another option. Another pathway.
This Is Deep Work
You're not just changing your mind about things. You're rewiring survival patterns that formed when you were young and didn't have other options.
It takes time. It takes processing emotion. It takes learning new responses.
But it's possible.
People who were stuck in these cycles for decades make fundamental shifts when they do the work—cognitive and somatic combined.



42 Comments
Can it be possible to swing between the two types of over compensation?
Absolutely. How you react might also be person dependent.
I go into the ANXIOUS PLEASE MODE and it's so fustrating cos I'm 58 years old a grandmother of 3 and I become the scared little 9 year old girl who is standing in front of her evil stepmother 😢💔 Thanks Roland I really find your articles VERY VERY helpful. Beryl
My wife has decided that I am a narcissist personality. My therapist disagrees. I have had times when I act out angrily, but mostly I wear myself down trying to meet all of the needs and wants of my wife and kids? What is your opinion of this type of behavior?
Anxious pleaser. It's lead to more and more abuse. Finally I'm aware it's a thing. Now to learn to not do it… How? Help!
I have taken on the pleasing coping skill and am a prime example of that horrid cycle of pleasing, becoming too involved and getting hurt in the end as well as the cycle of falling for the narcissistic person for that love and validation. This relationship was the one that woke me up and turned me toward an anger and determination that I will never be that person again.
A great read and spot on however tips and tools of how to deal or talk yourself down in certain situations would be very helpful.
I agree!
All that feels very clear and truth about me – pleasing and then disappointment… I work hard with myself (meditation, coaching, art, dancing…), my awareness has grown a lot but still I feel often sad, not worth a love. I am already 63. What to do more?
Fawn or people-pleasing makes us magnets for further abuse. From an abusive home. I jumped into a relationship with a charmer who lied and emotionally abused and used me. I don't know what was worse the original abuse or the abuse in the hands of this man. It nearly destroyed me.
Me too 🙁 I'll send you some positive light, sister. I hope someday we will find the unconditional love and acceptance we want and deserve.
This perfectly explained how I feel with being a "pleaser." The cycles, the hurt, the expectations, seeking validation through other's approval. I have CPTSD and this was helpful to read.
Good to hear you resonated with the article.
Very incisive and clear. Yes. Thank you. Some of us flee *or* please. It's very difficult to crack, as it's difficult to even be aware of this cycle, even after five decades of it. I'm going to click on your links in the article and see what you offer about this. I'm still holding out hope that someday I can have a decent relationship.
Good to hear. Keep going forward.
YES! Finally someone described me. No love, or even praise or attention as a child; then US Army and a tour of Vietnam. Then married to a narcissistic woman. Only felt love after I hit 50 years old. Now 68 and have been rated 100%, Permanent and Totally disabled due to PTSD for >15 years. Thank you. John
Good to hear, John.
anger/fight and anxious/please…why is this???
These are survival mechanisms that we put in place in times of hardship.
I seem to do both at times.
Makes sense.
im independent so dont know where that falls
Hello. I've been reading your blog with interest and I have a question. Is there any age limit that you would put on dealing with trauma in an individual? I'm talking about children and youth. Or, maybe better than an age limit, do you have a criteria you use to determine if a person is ready to begin dealing with a traumatic history? Thank you in advance.
I defaulted to an anxious-fawn response. Ironically, I was involved in a long-term relationship with a narcissist (at least I believe he was). Not even sure which adjectives could best describe that insanity! Thank God I woke up and got out, but only after years of substance abuse. (I'm sober today!)
I'm the "pleaser." I've been hurt badly by the narcissist! It's a cycle of unfortunate abuse; both were abused during childhood-I react by pleasing and giving-he reacts with anger/power-I give more to please-he takes more without caring or empathy. I get PTSD-he does not care or help. Married 35 years-he leaves for "something better." I hurt and live alone without the love I've desired my whole life; he goes to retirement home where people do everything for him without expecting any feeling from him. That's my life in a nutshell!
That's awful Martha. My heart goes out to you.
I no longer respond from a need to please, however, when triggered I can respond from a place of anger. Both responses are from a place of self love and are tempered. The pain I feel remains, is very real, still.
I relate to the anxious/pleasing. I'm preyed on by charmers. I have what I need for stability, physically. The chargers disrupt my stability when I invite them into my home and they snoop in my stuff.
Wow that was very interesting post Roland,for along time my default was anxious/please now my self esteem an confidence has grown its switched to anger/fight im very controlling with my environment,as it overwhelms and over stimulates me alot,my tolerance for to much going on is very low,i dont cope well at all,my boundries also have become very tight with people keeping their distance,its out of fear i do this…
Roland, no words capture my gratitude for the crisp insight that has come through you – clarity I have been seeking for 3 decades, sometimes just almost seeming to 'get'. An anxious-fawn response to love-challenged childhood – rendering me prey for the validation-craved, manipulative, controlling, addiction-prone narcissist I married. We have both suffered mightily. Thanks to your huge compassion and these empowering insights, I now SEE the picture clearly . . . and KNOW as never before I can trust my instincts about pathology here and also KNOW what I do from here is well-grounded and in the best interests of both of us. Thank you, thank you . . . and may you yourself be gifted beyond measure for ALL you do . . .
Brilliant perspective thank you for this. I believe I resonate more towards the anger-fight response after years of 'band aid' damage, but I have finally reached a place where I am ready to complete my therapy and work towards helping others.
Great article! I am definitely the Anxious/please type. Husband is the Anger/fight. It is a constant cycle😥
This is an incredible description of me and my sister, and our lives since childhood. It's healing in itself to learn that there are explanations as to why my family and myself exhibit certain behavior patterns, because you're right, it does get messy. Helps me to understand and forgive and to move forward. Thank you.
Anger fight.
Hi 👋 Is this Linda Murray from Michigan?
Thanks Ronald. Not only do I see myself having both responses but also acting as a narcissist/charmer towards my partner who also sufferers from PTSD and CPTSD. Is that event possible? To be both the victim and the perpetrator?
Certainly. We have different survival patterns that we enact with different people.
I see patterns of fluxing through both over time.
Understood.
I tend to be anxious-fawn at first. However, when enough becomes enough for me anger-fight kicks in. It's kind of like a sleeping bear that has been awakened and pushed to the limits.
Anxious-fawn mostly. I sometimes will isolate. Not sure if that is an anger-fight response. My mom is a narcissist. I am the youngest of 9 kids. The sister just above me is a sociopath who took her anger at my mom out on me. I finally cut my sister out after she verbally attacked me in front of people (but behind closed doors she was sweet as pie to me). I cut my mom out last year. I just can't with her anymore. Defending monsters and acting like my sister is the most wonderful person in the world. I feel guilt ridden over my decision, especially since my mom is elderly, but I have to protect myself.
I usually do the anxious/ please but if I'm pushed too far the anger/fight comes out.
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